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The Manziell comparison is laughable

Aside from the fact that Manziell has the smarts and attitude of a vegetable, he had nowhere near the arm and was a good athlete, not great. Murray has a better arm by a ton, is more athletic and has a helluva lot better head and attitude. Winston is also a bad example. He wasnt drafted a real dual threat, he is a pocket passer with decent mobility. Plud he got his 5th year option picked up which means he made more money than all the top ten in the 2010 mlb draft by oh about 30 to 45 million+. He will end up getting a contract for 10 to 15 million a year somewhere.

I would say someone like Tyrod Taylor is the closest comp. He has made nearly 50 million so far and has another 10s of millions coming. With Murray's head start bc of being a first rounder, he will hit 100 mill in about 7 or 8 years.

I would say he has a much better chance of being as good as Tyrod, Case Keenum, Blake Bortles or Jamei Winston than he does being as good as let's say a Mookie Betts (makes about 19mm a year now but made a total of 13mm in his first five years (10mm of that coming in year 5 as arbritation) as an absolute stud for the Sox.

So you're betting that Kyler has a better chance of reaching all star status in 3 to 4 years when half of the first/second rounders never make the MLB at all. And average time to make it is 4 to 6 years which would be when that clock starts on getting a real salary. Which means most guys don't even hit a 7 figure salary until toiling for almost a decade.

He is battling 7000 other minor leaguers a year instead of the about 60 qbs (many of whom are already known as career backups only) in the league and 5 to 7 viable draftable or FA college qbs a year.

(In response to this post by Maupin233)

Posted: 02/12/2019 at 07:59AM


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