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Lazarus

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If I understand your point to be to physically confront the ref, then I


disagree. Dissent is a very common yellow card offense.

If you are speaking about both the players and the refs, being allowed to touch each other, then I agree soccer is unique wrt other American sports. Refs routinely put a hand on players and vice versa. I think this is good. In sports we typically see in America, any physical contact - certainly in football or baseball - any physical contact, even accidental is immediately considered an attempt at intimidation and dealt with severely.

What I see as different in soccer is that instead of drawing the line with early fouls and warning cards, the refs will engage with the offending player. It is common to see a ref tell a player no more warnings, the next foul is a card.

There was a famous game a few years ago between United and Chelsea. United's manager, Jose Moreno decided before the game to have any player near Chelsea's Eden Hazard to foul Hazard. Because multiple players were doing it & not just a single player, the fouling went on effectively for thirty minutes or so. The ref finally had enough and pulled the United captain aside. The ref told him, whoever fouls Hazard next, gets carded. I think this is very effective reffing. As it would happen, the only player who had been carded for United, happened to foul Hazard next. It probably was an innocent foul, but United had been warned - the resulting yellow was the 2d and - United was down a man.

I think in general soccer -- and I watch the Prem almost exclusively (except CL of course) -- does not allow screaming animated dissent. Touching is not assumed to be an act of intimidation as it is in the NFL or MLB. Communication between refs and players is crucial in all sports.

And now for our resident experts to weigh in an excellent question.

Merry Christmas to all Hoos.

(In response to this post by RML Hoos)

Posted: 12/23/2019 at 06:33AM



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