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Toolie92

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OK I just rechecked and I am not so sure


It gets really complicated under 4-way tie scenarios and if ND had beaten FSU it looked like we probably would have been the #1 seed at the time. But the way all the lower-seeded teams finished the season FSU it gets really complicated.

As far as I can tell, if you only changed that one game result (ND beats FSU), then the 4-way tiebreaker would have had UVa and FSU with 3-2 combined record against the top 4, then Louisville at 2-3, and Duke at 1-2.

Here is the tiebreaker rules:
c. If three or more teams are tied in the standings, the following procedure will be used:
1) The combined record in conference games between the tied teams involved will be compiled. Ties will be broken and seeds assigned based on the winning
percentage of the combined conference records. The higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group is
unequal (e.g., 2-0 is better than 3-1; 1-0 is the same as 2-0; 2-0 is the same as 4-0; 2-1 is the same as 4-2; 1-0 is better than 1-1; 0-1 is the same as 0-2; 0-2 is the same as 0-4).
2) If procedure (1) fails to break the tie, then each tied team’s record shall be compared to the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season
standings, continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage by a higher winning percentage.
3) If the tie is broken by (1) or (2) regarding one or more teams, but three or more teams remain tied, then procedures (1) and (2) will be re-applied among those tied teams only.
4) If two teams remain tied, procedures (a) and (b) will be followed.

Now it all comes down to how rule (2) would be applied. Do only FSU and UVa go through rule (2)? And does it now start with record against 5th place? If so, 5th place would have been a 2-way tie between GT and ND, and by virtue of that hypothetical ND-FSU game we would have won that tie-breaker. I think this is the way I at least assumed rule (2) worked.

Or do only FSU/UVa go through the rule but it gets applied first to Louisville? In which case FSU wins that tie-breaker.

Or do FSU/UVa/Duke/Louisville all get compared to the 5th place teams? In which case Duke and UVa come out on top until you compare the Duke/UVa records on the 7th place teams and Duke actually comes out on top.






[Post edited by Toolie92 at 10/15/2020 5:02PM]

(In response to this post by Diehl)

Posted: 10/15/2020 at 4:51PM



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