Virginia Baseball Board

Joined: 08/30/2013 Posts: 21877
Likes: 7171

What's this?

Yes, it was a decent throw, but it was not on Smith's frame.He had to reach

back for it slightly (to his right, a bit like a tennis player who is being wrong-footed) & Smith couldn't see the runner ahead of him. He panicked & tried to make catch & swipe move, which is easier said than done and which was not necessary in that situation, & he botched it.

As I mentioned in another post, Chris set the tone for the play. When he missed the ball,he recovered as quickly as possible, but you could sense LA's panic. (That said, Chris made a decent-good off-balance throw to Muncy.) It looked to me like Muncy was going to zip it home & that he changed his mind at the last moment (perhaps because he saw that the runner was nowhere near home) & took something off the throw.

Not only did Chris, Muncy & Smith execute poorly, Jansen didn't back up home. The Dodgers completely fell apart, despite the fact that (as far as I know) all 4 of those players have been in 2 of the last 3 World Series. Experience isn't always everything it's cranked up to be.

(In response to this post by Trigon)

Posted: 10/25/2020 at 10:58AM

PREV NEXT REPLY

Insert a Link

Enter the title of the link here:

Enter the full web address of the link here -- include the "http://" part:

Current Thread:

Announcers and scorekeeper seem incorrect. Assigned error to CT, but 1st -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:30AM

His boot put the wheels in motion. I know he’s a Hoo but -- hooville1 10/25/2020 08:51AM

"wheels in motion" and "set the tone" don't seem to be in the rule book ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:55AM

It did, but the E should go to the play that allowed the runner to reach -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:23AM

Totally agree but without CT’s boot, I don’t think the chain of events even -- hooville1 10/25/2020 10:25AM

Right. If the catcher does his job, the inning ends with Arozarena being -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:58AM

I agree. Chris would have probably thrown home & Muncy would have probably -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 10:42AM

That’s not how errors are assigned, but good good recap... ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:59AM

Understood (about how Es are assigned). I found a video of the bottomtched -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:12AM

It has been an interesting series to watch. LA has more hitting talent. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:23AM

I have not been able to watch the series, so I don't really know either -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 12:26PM

Oh, and with all of TB’s 6’5” pitchers, KK HAS to be their GM, right? ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:26AM

Not how it works. Or not how it’s supposed to work. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:36AM

Well said ... additionally, it seems far from clear that Arozarena scores -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:12AM

Chris was not going to throw the tie runner out at home. And I think that -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 09:01AM

Yep. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:24AM

I don't know the rules, but I think CT deserved an E. So did the catcher. -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 08:05AM

Re: I don't know the rules -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:53AM

Yes, the catcher should have caught it. And setting the tone is not an E. -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:19AM

Yahoo article describing Muncy's throw home as "off-target": -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 08:18AM

Muncy hit the catcher in the glove ... (pic) -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:46AM

Yes, it was a decent throw, but it was not on Smith's frame.He had to reach -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 10:58AM

Players reach for balls all the time. That doesn't make the throw an error -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:10AM

Agreed. It was, as I said, a decent throw. And professional catchers have -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:16AM

Setting the tone isn’t covered in the scoring rules. An average catcher -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:05AM

Completely agree. Now had Chris fielded the ball -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:42AM

It would have been more fun if it was fielded cleanly and they were still -- thebombardier 10/25/2020 12:45AM

God I despise the Rays ** -- 3West 10/25/2020 12:42AM

Isn't that something? I feel the same way about the Dodgers. They were Bums -- AWAHOO 10/25/2020 09:24AM

Really why? Low payroll no-name underdogs ** -- HooStu 10/25/2020 08:18AM

Rays Up! ** -- VAGentleman05 10/25/2020 01:18AM

Arozarena fell down - error allowed him to chance to score ** -- SPYCAV 10/25/2020 12:35AM

Allowed him the chance to be thrown out trying (until Catcher's error). ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:43AM

Point is, he did fall down. Error that allowed him to score was short -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:38AM

Relay throw was fine. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:45AM

This is the correct interpretation ** -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:35AM

Incorrect. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:42AM

Makes zero sense. He was retreating to 3rd base until Smith booted it ** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:40AM

Disagree. If Smith catches the ball, we’re in extras. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:38AM

Without CT error the runner never attempts home -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:40AM

In one of those views, it looked like the 3rd base coach held him then sent -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:53AM

So? He was encouraged to go home - where he was dead until C error. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:47AM

So what, he was retreating to 3rd until the real error ** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:41AM

What the argument? CT deserves an E. IMO, Smith does too. ** -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:43AM

There are not 2 errors for 1 additional base. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:48AM

Even though the batter is a meaningless runner in that situation, could his -- Wahoos6 10/25/2020 12:58AM

wellll ... if Taylor gets an E for allowing the batter's inconsequential -- Trigon 10/25/2020 01:25AM

I don't think so. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 01:06AM

Maybe? If he reached 2b before Arozerena(sp?) scored. More likely, though, -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 01:09AM

That’s a very good point. Clearly the E that allowed the score was Smith’s** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:49AM

Deserving has nothing to do with it. A fielder can boot a ball terribly -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:48AM

Much better said. Thank you. ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:56AM

Was it possible Arozarena would’ve stopped at 2nd? -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:34AM

Not with 2 outs, running on contact. ** -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:44AM

Re: Not with 2 outs, running on contact. ** -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:44AM

Arozarena was flying past 2nd. Taylor's play encouraged him to go home ... -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:42AM

No, he would’ve stopped at third though ** -- SPYCAV 10/25/2020 12:35AM

Virginia Basketball Schedule

Edit
Date	Opponent	Time/TV/Score
12/22	William & Mary	(W) 76-40
12/26	Gonzaga (@Fort Worth, Texas)	(L) 75-98
12/30	@ Notre Dame	(W) 66-57
1/2	Virginia Tech	PPD
1/6	Wake Forest	(W) 70-61
1/9	@ Boston College	(W) 61-49
1/13	Notre Dame	(W) 80-68
1/16	@ Clemson	(W) 85-50
1/20	NC State	7 p.m./ACC Network
1/23	Georgia Tech	8 p.m./ACC Network
1/25	Syracuse	7 p.m./ESPN

Yes, it was a decent throw, but it was not on Smith's frame.He had to reach

Insert a Link

All Boards

Virginia Basketball Schedule

Get the Sabre Edge!