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Agreed. It was, as I said, a decent throw. And professional catchers have

to catch it. But I think that it's fair to say that it wasn't a good throw; it didn't put Smith in optimal position to make the play. That said, Smith should have made the play. He made an error, whether or not the scorekeeper called it.

That is why I why I have emphasized that the Dodgers panicked. If Smith had had a cooler head, he would have been aware that he didn't need to make a catch, swipe, and tag play to get Arozerena at home. He get caught up in the panic & tried to make a relatively tough play that he didn't even need to make.

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Posted: 10/25/2020 at 11:16AM

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Announcers and scorekeeper seem incorrect. Assigned error to CT, but 1st -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:30AM

His boot put the wheels in motion. I know he’s a Hoo but -- hooville1 10/25/2020 08:51AM

"wheels in motion" and "set the tone" don't seem to be in the rule book ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:55AM

It did, but the E should go to the play that allowed the runner to reach -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:23AM

Totally agree but without CT’s boot, I don’t think the chain of events even -- hooville1 10/25/2020 10:25AM

Right. If the catcher does his job, the inning ends with Arozarena being -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:58AM

I agree. Chris would have probably thrown home & Muncy would have probably -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 10:42AM

That’s not how errors are assigned, but good good recap... ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:59AM

Understood (about how Es are assigned). I found a video of the bottomtched -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:12AM

It has been an interesting series to watch. LA has more hitting talent. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:23AM

I have not been able to watch the series, so I don't really know either -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 12:26PM

Oh, and with all of TB’s 6’5” pitchers, KK HAS to be their GM, right? ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:26AM

Not how it works. Or not how it’s supposed to work. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 10:36AM

Well said ... additionally, it seems far from clear that Arozarena scores -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:12AM

Chris was not going to throw the tie runner out at home. And I think that -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 09:01AM

Yep. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:24AM

I don't know the rules, but I think CT deserved an E. So did the catcher. -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 08:05AM

Re: I don't know the rules -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:53AM

Yes, the catcher should have caught it. And setting the tone is not an E. -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:19AM

Yahoo article describing Muncy's throw home as "off-target": -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 08:18AM

Muncy hit the catcher in the glove ... (pic) -- Trigon 10/25/2020 10:46AM

Yes, it was a decent throw, but it was not on Smith's frame.He had to reach -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 10:58AM

Players reach for balls all the time. That doesn't make the throw an error -- Trigon 10/25/2020 11:10AM

Agreed. It was, as I said, a decent throw. And professional catchers have -- Hoo in W. Africa 10/25/2020 11:16AM

Setting the tone isn’t covered in the scoring rules. An average catcher -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 11:05AM

Completely agree. Now had Chris fielded the ball -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:42AM

It would have been more fun if it was fielded cleanly and they were still -- thebombardier 10/25/2020 12:45AM

God I despise the Rays ** -- 3West 10/25/2020 12:42AM

Isn't that something? I feel the same way about the Dodgers. They were Bums -- AWAHOO 10/25/2020 09:24AM

Really why? Low payroll no-name underdogs ** -- HooStu 10/25/2020 08:18AM

Rays Up! ** -- VAGentleman05 10/25/2020 01:18AM

Arozarena fell down - error allowed him to chance to score ** -- SPYCAV 10/25/2020 12:35AM

Allowed him the chance to be thrown out trying (until Catcher's error). ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:43AM

Point is, he did fall down. Error that allowed him to score was short -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:38AM

Relay throw was fine. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:45AM

This is the correct interpretation ** -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:35AM

Incorrect. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:42AM

Makes zero sense. He was retreating to 3rd base until Smith booted it ** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:40AM

Disagree. If Smith catches the ball, we’re in extras. -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:38AM

Without CT error the runner never attempts home -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:40AM

In one of those views, it looked like the 3rd base coach held him then sent -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:53AM

So? He was encouraged to go home - where he was dead until C error. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:47AM

So what, he was retreating to 3rd until the real error ** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:41AM

What the argument? CT deserves an E. IMO, Smith does too. ** -- DevinSprite 10/25/2020 12:43AM

There are not 2 errors for 1 additional base. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:48AM

Even though the batter is a meaningless runner in that situation, could his -- Wahoos6 10/25/2020 12:58AM

wellll ... if Taylor gets an E for allowing the batter's inconsequential -- Trigon 10/25/2020 01:25AM

I don't think so. ** -- Trigon 10/25/2020 01:06AM

Maybe? If he reached 2b before Arozerena(sp?) scored. More likely, though, -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 01:09AM

That’s a very good point. Clearly the E that allowed the score was Smith’s** -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:49AM

Deserving has nothing to do with it. A fielder can boot a ball terribly -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:48AM

Much better said. Thank you. ** -- WAYoVerraTed 10/25/2020 12:56AM

Was it possible Arozarena would’ve stopped at 2nd? -- Quintel 10/25/2020 12:34AM

Not with 2 outs, running on contact. ** -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:44AM

Re: Not with 2 outs, running on contact. ** -- Shenhoo 10/25/2020 12:44AM

Arozarena was flying past 2nd. Taylor's play encouraged him to go home ... -- Trigon 10/25/2020 12:42AM

No, he would’ve stopped at third though ** -- SPYCAV 10/25/2020 12:35AM

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