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Sadly true. He thinks all the pieces are fungible, and completely ignores

all of the millions of historical and cultural ties that bind teams to their locations and stadia. He might be right that you can just create a summer collegiate league in Appalachia and tons of top-flight D1 players are going to want to come, and people will love watching it. But that remains to be seen. Summer teams also need to provide jobs -- whether the players help run clinics for local kids, or work in local businesses (I think the Cape is unique in having players do both -- most leagues the only summer employment is camps). But parents don't just immediately warm to a new team and a new summer camp for their kids. They might well take to it like a fish takes to water. But they may not. Hard to say. And if you are somehow able to persuade talent to go to the Appy League, you risk diluting the talent in the leagues that have worked so hard with scant resources to build something really good. Like, for instance, the Cape League, or some of the better-run NECBL franchises like Keene, Newport, Vermont, and Sanford, or the Northwoods League's stars -- most notably, the Madison Mallards. Don't want to destroy all of that.

And people are fickle. I don't know if people in Aberdeen, Maryland are going to love being in a new East Coast League with God knows what affiliation. The Orioles are already set with Norfolk, Bowie, Frederick, and Delmarva, in the levels that will survive. The Phillies have strong relationships with Lakewood, Reading, and Allentown (and my guess is they will have Clearwater as their low A and Lakewood will bump up, or they will take over Wilmington).

I just don't have a good feeling about all of this. Manfred is treating the minors and summer collegiate leagues like a corporate raider who has bought a company and is stripping it down to resell it. He's not treating it with the kind of care you'd expect something with such history and such close community ties to have.

My local minor league affiliate is a Kansas City Royals farm team. We are over 1000 miles from Kansas City. But we like the Royals and the Royals LOVE Wilmington. They have an affiliate that draws 5000 a game, and the alternatives (California and Florida State Leagues) have been awful, so they are ecstatic to be here. It's all but certain that MLB is going to kill off that relationship. Whether we have a Phillies affiliate or, God forbid, a Mets or Yankees or Pirates affiliate, I think we'll grow to appreciate them over time -- but the Royals fit was organic and built over time. We went with the Red Sox for 2 years and it was an AWFUL fit. The Red Sox just churned players through town without any regard for the host families or the organization -- host families had no idea who was living in their houses on a particular day. Now MLB is going to throw out all of the history and all of the ties and just coldly allocate franchise affiliations like they are solely a matter of travel efficiency.

When they were just doing things like imposing the DH on the NL or putting a runner on 2nd to start the 10th inning, I was annoyed, but not ready to declare war on MLB. But they have upped the ante significantly. If this kills MiLB and the summer collegiate leagues I will never forgive these criminals.

(In response to this post by Karl Hess)

Posted: 11/17/2020 at 6:34PM


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