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HoosAC which is it? Does the FDA have a rigorous trustworthy safety process

.. such that we can trust that the safety of the vaccines is being well and truly evaluated, or is the process for evaluating the safety of the vaccines in actual use total crap? You can't have it both ways.

The FDA had the opportunity to implement or stand up or use as rigorous an adverse event data collection system as they wanted to for this emergency. VAERS is what they chose as being the most appropriate and, I think most would presume, rightly or wrongly, the one most likely to protect the public from danger. If that system is untrustworthy crap, then I don't see how anyone can represent that the vaccines themselves can be trusted. If That official system is, however, judged to have real value, then there are very real signals in the data that indicate something could be wrong, at the very least in the selected subsets that have recently brought attention (particularly cardiac events) and which the FDA itself has acknowledged.

As an aside, there is a great deal of scholarly discussion of the underreporting that by definition occurs in these self-reporting systems... But, that is an aside to the self-contradictory views people seem to want to take on the FDA that I point out above.

(In response to this post by EAPo)

Posted: 07/09/2021 at 12:07PM


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