Patterns and trends, just interesting................
2001-2010 finals appearances....
Cuse and Hop - 9
Real ACC* - 5
2011-21 finals appearances
Cuse and Hop - 1
Real ACC* - 13
new teams - Denver, loyola, Yale, OSU
* MD, UVa, Puke, UNC=''real'' ACC
MD became a great lacrosse program in the ACC not BIG 10
Will never regard 'Cuse or ND as real ACC schools, and not just because neither is w/in 100 miles of the Atlantic ocean.