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Explain to me the philosophical differences for the front 6/7

and maybe I can agree.

One of the key concepts of the 4-2-5 which was developed to stop the spread offenses in the 90's was that you had at least 2 or 3 "tweeners" on your defense. Typically it was at least one smallish DE with a tradeoff for speed in lieu of size. As a side note, I believe New Mexico (St?) ran this defense and the tweener was Urlacher S/LB. TCU also runs this defense and have had the Jerry Hughes DE/OLB tweener. Then it has a hydrid safety/LB and sometimes a hydrid S/CB (typically this would be a nickel package CB who is covering a TE of other receiver).

Pretty sure Foster at VT ran a version of this. He put studs at the tweener positions. Adibi, Chancellor....etc. He usually had one real stud DL sometimes 2 in the interior.

Where do you see our personnel right now fitting? That is probably what the coaching brain trust is trying to figure out. I look at our current depth chart and see the following.

Alonzo - Much more of a disrupter than 2 gapping DT. More of a 3-4 DE
Famaui - Much more of an interior disrupter like a 4-3 DT
Carter/Redmond - Prototypical 3-4 NG (space eater)
Atwari - More of a typical 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE

Nick Jackson - Prototypical 4-3 inside out pursuit LB (think Ray Lewis)
Stewart - I would say he is a prototypical strong side OLB in a 4-3 defense but we don't run that
Eliott Brown - ????? is he really a LB or some hybrid safety/LB
Taylor - Seems like the whip LB used my FOster at VT. Not going to set the edge and not going to cover people but can apply pressure by defeating OTs with speed and RBs with strength.

I won't talk about the CBs as I think Johnson, Hayes and Grant fit the bill for just about any defense as serviceable CBs.

J. Blount - I view him as a prototypical SS in an old era running the alley and cleaning up tackles does not have the size to be one of the tweeners in a 4-2-5.
D. Cross - If he were more physical then he would be that tweener. Big enough to come up in run support and just fast enough to cover inside receivers. But right now his tackling ability is a hinderance to whatever defense we are running.

I just don't see an off the shelf system that as a whole is complimentary to our personnel right now.

(In response to this post by IB4DemHoos)

Posted: 09/28/2021 at 6:49PM


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4-2-5 Hear me out -- IB4DemHoos 09/28/2021 10:29AM
  Nice analysis ** -- TulaneUVA 09/28/2021 8:37PM
  Thanks, I just think -- JKHooing 09/28/2021 9:13PM
  3-4 is what we used to run -- hooman#1 09/28/2021 12:56PM
  4-3 or 5-2 -- 4theHOOS 09/28/2021 12:50PM
  How about 5-2 Pickup? -- jdubforwahoowa 09/28/2021 12:10PM
  You’ve lost your damn mind ** -- TulaneUVA 09/28/2021 8:46PM
  That is actually way in my rear view. Lol -- jdubforwahoowa 09/28/2021 10:01PM
  TWSS ** -- Stimp 09/28/2021 12:20PM
  Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? ** -- Maupin233 09/28/2021 12:26PM
  Stimp! ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 09/28/2021 12:25PM
  I agree about the DL -- Just1More 09/28/2021 11:43AM
  That lineup is... oh... so.. slowwwww... ** -- HTrain90 09/28/2021 11:34AM
  I think 1-5-5 might be our best chance ** -- hoolu 09/28/2021 11:30AM
  3 nose tackles? ** -- MartyBall 09/28/2021 11:27AM
  We have two flavors; vanilla and plain vanilla. ** -- hoosone 09/28/2021 11:17AM
  Was sure you were going to go with French vanilla. -- chapelHOOll 09/28/2021 11:55AM
  And no fat plain vanilla. ** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/28/2021 11:55AM
  I don't like no-fat. It's too healthy. ** -- hoosone 09/28/2021 12:08PM
  The rarely attempted "4 DT" look ** -- PWillis52 09/28/2021 11:15AM
  4-3 ** -- VBHoo2001 09/28/2021 11:07AM
  Based on our personnel this it probably our best bet. -- beartech1 09/28/2021 11:15AM
  Not working ** -- me chuckles 09/28/2021 10:48AM

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