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That and his arrogance plus broken relationshipw with admissions

Groh thought he was the smartest guy in the room and would not adjust his appraoch to coaching (the defense in particular) and developing assistants when the facts dictated he do so - he had a preferred way to play on offense and defense that he didn't have the players in many instances to amke work effectively and he didn't adjust his schemes (or empower his assistants to do so - if they had the ability) to maximize the talent that he did have.

He actually inherited pretty decent talent overall but outside of the first year or two, never really consistently recruited to fill the gaps.

He also tried to force admissions' hand in offering players who were borderline without working with admissions in advance and admissions rejected many of them.

(In response to this post by KCHoo)

Posted: 10/27/2021 at 08:17AM


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