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No, takes much longer. UNC, KU, KY and Duke are the

only true current blue bloods IMO. Early in Howland's tenure, UCLA might still have been there, though they were fading. Now, they are on the outside looking in IMO, but you could say they are still a blue blood due to sheen number of championships and final fours. Indiana was almost a blue (red) blood by the late 1980's but again, have done little since and have been really bad some seasons. Michigan St. is probably right there, almost to blue (green) blood status if anyone is close.

I would say it is roughly the number of final fours and championship you have been to in the last 25-30 years, with bonus points based on final fours and championships before that. Final Fours since 1990 - UNC (11), Duke (8), Kansas (5), Kentucky (7). NOVA has 2.

Then you look at really bad seasons in there. The top four have had very few really bad seasons in the last 25-30 and, frankly, few mediocre seasons. They have had good to great seasons almost every year - at least good to great by everyone else's standards.

Since 1990
- UNC has had 1 losing season and only 1 other season where they failed to win at least 20 games. Missed the NCAA tourney 3 times.
- Duke has had 1 losing season and only 1 other season where they failed to win at least 20 games. Missed the NCAA tourney 1 time.
- Kentucky has had 0 losing seaons and only 1 season where they failed to reach 20 games. Missed the NCAA tourney 2 times.
- Kansas has had won at least 23 games every year and has never missed the NCAA tourney.

NOVA, in contrast, has had 5 losing seasons since 1990 and 4 other years where they failed to reach 20 wins. Missed the NCAA tourney 10 times. Now, if NOVA keeps this up for another 8-10 years - another championship and a final four or two with only 1 or 2 season of less than 20 wins - then they will be a blue blood.

Michigan state is very close. Since 1990 no losing seasons (one 16-16) but 7 total with less than 20 wins. 7 final fours with 1 championship. Missed NCAA tourney 3 times, all 20+ years ago. Michigan St. has a lot except for those pesky down seasons and the strength of the basketball history further back. Izzo pull off another championship here in the next few years, I think they are probably there.

By contract Tony and UVa are about 20+ years behind the true blue bloods. It is easier to count the seasons with 20+ wins than count those without. If Tony keep doing what he is doing plus gets us to a 5+ final fours and a few NCAA championships without more than 1-2 down seasons of less than 20 wins, then by about 2035 UVa can claim blue blood status.

(In response to this post by Hoos1&1)

Posted: 02/05/2018 at 7:53PM


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  No, takes much longer. UNC, KU, KY and Duke are the -- RML Hoos 02/05/2018 7:53PM
  Rollie had success ** -- Molina 02/05/2018 7:32PM
  If San Francisco wins another one, same deal ** -- harvard_hoo 02/05/2018 7:52PM
  It takes generations to move on or off such a list -- Toolie92 02/05/2018 7:09PM
  MSU >>> Indiana and has been for many years ** -- harvard_hoo 02/05/2018 7:43PM
  Yes ** -- HiltonHeadHoo 02/05/2018 6:58PM
  It seems those are already permanently solidified -- Oregon Hoo 02/05/2018 6:55PM

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